Should We Be Fat Talk Free?

Actual SizeThanks to reader Harmony for providing the inspiration for this post!  Part of it is a re-post from a past blog and part of it is new to address new questions. Reasonably often I see somebody – typically somebody well intentioned – suggest that we should stop using the word fat.  Recently I actually saw someone say that fat people “shouldn’t be allowed” to call ourselves fat.  Sometimes when it is discussed, “fat talk” is short hand for negative body talk, but often it’s literal.

The issue here is that, however well meaning, saying that we shouldn’t call people fat suggests that being fat is such a terrible thing that we shouldn’t utter the word out loud.  Fat people are not Voldemort and making fat seem like the “physical descriptor that must not be named” actually further shames and stigmatizes people who are, in fact, fat (whether we call them/ourselves that or not.)

Many people who meet the social definition of fat don’t identify as such. This is typically because society has been allowed to heap all kinds of nastiness onto a perfectly good adjective. In response, many of us choose to embrace the word fat because we get to choose what words have power over us and we have decided that when it comes to how we describe our bodies, the bullies can no longer have our lunch money. Of course, nobody is obligated identify as fat, but at the end of the day even those who choose not to identify with the word fat – either because of the negativity that has been heaped upon it, or because it was used as a weapon against them, or for some other reason – are still fat by the social definition. So when someone says “Don’t call people fat” because it’s body shaming, they are saying that there’s something wrong with being fat, which is – you guessed it – body shaming.

The problem isn’t that people are fat.  The problem is that there is so much social stigma around being fat.  It is in this way that we get sayings such as:

you’re not fat, you have fat,

“you’re not fat, you’re beautiful”

and people who think that their lack of condescension for a fat person who went running is so important that they should write about it.

To understand the problem, try substituting a characteristic that is more socially neutral.  I’m also brunette, so we’ll use that:

“You’re not brunette, you just have brown hair!”

“You’re not brunette, you’re beautiful”

“To the brunette running on the Westfield track, if you’d look at me when you pass you’d see that there’s no condescension in my eyes, I have nothing but respect for you.”

The first one sounds patently ridiculous.  The second is offensive – since obviously being brunette and being beautiful are not mutually exclusive. The last one is just whackadoodle, why would it be noteworthy that someone didn’t have condescension for a person with brown hair who went running?

The fact that these three phrases are vastly different with two different adjectives speaks to the effect of society’s weight bias, and that won’t be solved by calling fat people something else.

The trick is to end body shaming and negative body talk full stop – not to suggest that we should abandon the use a perfectly good physical descriptor because people have been allowed to heap negativity onto it.

Here’s what I think:  We don’t need an end to “fat talk”, we need an end to fat stereotyping, fat stigmatizing, fat bashing and fat-based healthism (along with all healthism while we’re at it.) We need to acknowledge that bodies come in lots of different sizes for lots of different reasons and that people of all sizes deserve to be treated with respect – which includes the absence of stereotyping based on physical appearance.  I think that we need to end body snarking and body bashing of all kinds, and I think part of that is creating a world where calling someone fat doesn’t constitute either.

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Published in: on June 25, 2015 at 10:48 am  Comments (13)  

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  1. Totally with you. But I also think that nowadays we are so into judging every part of peoples appearance that it’s difficult to find socially neutral characteristics. I mean, hair? How often have I heard: You’re beautiful, but your beauty could be seen much better if you just straightend your curly hair? (and that could be worse if I weren’t a white person living in Europe …)
    So I fear that many people today don’t get your example with being brunette, because every part of our appearance seems to be up to other peoples judgement …

  2. this is a good one. happy Friday to you.

  3. Re-blogging immediately! I posted something very like this about the word ‘fat’ a couple of weeks ago. I even used the fact that I’m a brunette as an example!

  4. Reblogged this on I think you'll find I can and commented:
    This. A world of this.

  5. I would love to spend just 24 hours inside your brain!

  6. Loved this and shared this on FB! It is so very relatable and so easy to understand once you substitute the word “Brunette” for “Fat”. Thank you for this wonderful article!

  7. I am fat. I am brunette. I am left-handed. I am short. I am blue-eyed. I am an excellent baker. I am an atheist. I am politically liberal. I am a fan of Monty Python’s Flying Circus. I am straight. I am cisgendered. I am married. I am childless. I am unemployed.

    Every one of these things is a fact. Refusing to use the words doesn’t change the facts.

    Fat is a fact. I am fat. I will not let anyone tell me I cannot say who and what I am at my own discretion.

  8. I have a friend who gets so upset if I use the words “fat” or “old” to describe myself. I am not bothered AT ALL about either of those things (if we’re lucky enough, we all get old), and it’s like she thinks that if I just don’t mention them, neither of them will be true. I’ve tried to explain to her that I consider fat a neutral descriptor and indeed, I have a BMI of 30 and I’m not ashamed of that. I can’t shop in the “straight” sizes for clothes anymore, my waist-to-hip ratio is greater than “recommended,” so I pretty much fit the social definition of fat. And I’m perfectly fine with that. But it makes me feel shitty if my friends are somehow not okay with acknowledging that, like I am their chubby little secret that they can’t mention out loud.

    I asked this friend to point out someone she thought was fat and she pointed at someone who was roughly my size. She described a decidedly fat friend of ours as “not fat.” She saw people who she didn’t know (or didn’t like, as with another example we discussed) as “fat” but her friends as “not fat.” She’s using “fat” as a stand in for “dislike”. So yeah, we need to take that word back asap. The more we use the word, the less an insult it can become. As always, thanks for writing so succinctly on the matter!

  9. So if someone thinks I shouldn’t say “I’m am fat” but rather “I have fat”, what would a thin person say? I’m not thin, I have thin? WTH? That just makes no sense. The inverse doesn’t work. I’m a fat, white woman. None of those should be anything more than descriptions. I’m all about taking the word fat back as a neutral descriptor.

    • “I’m not thin I have thin” OMG LOL!! Made me laugh so hard haha never thought of it like that!

  10. “The physical descriptor that must not be named” It’s insane how true this is. By not using the word, we’re just creating even more stigma around it. It doesn’t stop body-shaming. It just comes in a different package. The example with you substituting “fat” with “brunette” just highlighted this and I couldn’t agree more. I’m so glad I found this blog, I could read it all day.

  11. Reblogged this on Tessa Can Do IT! and commented:
    Love this woman!

  12. Who gets to decide who is fat? Something I always wondered..


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